AILA Tapes

I just took a look at you site and read about your troubles with the AILA over the sections from tapes you published.

First of all, i seriously doubt their claim was legitmate because they really shouldn't corresspond about legal matter by e-mail!

Secondly if you still want to be sure .. why not post a transcript of the soundbytes you used! Quote the source and I can't see why you'd be in trouble.

Angela
Administrator at www.Javaranch.com a friendly place for java greenhorns.

I  received a stronger message from AILA by certified mail. They convinced me that they will close my site down whether I'm right or not. I was advised by activists that these lawyers mean business, and they are totally ruthless. They have the resources to make my life miserable and they will do anything necessary to protect their source of riches - immigration.

AILA was clearly wrong to bully me like this but without legal help I didn't stand a chance against them. I pleaded with organizations like the ACLU and FAIR for pro bono legal support so I could fight these sharks but they didn't respond. I decided that this is a fight I can't win, and will no longer try. 
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Just think of how well off our own citizens would be if we weren't the only First World Nation always there to bail out these Third World Nations with our military protection, economic development packages, health care programs, food, technology, jobs, education, and agricultural support programs. We Americans are sustaining the world on our backs! We professionals are making sacrifices that no other nation state group of professionals have been forced to endure! There has been very little concern from the imported cheap professionals who come to America and force their peer professionals into unemployment. If you came from a society that showed compassion this stealing of another's job would be a great shame and embarrassment to you, your family, and your country. Such a theft of work from your peer professionals doesn't seem troubling to many (certainly not all) of these imported cheap workers. That kind of lack of moral fiber is one of the more disturbing factors I have seen in the H-1B visa program. 

It is common knowledge that the imported workers in general are not competent workers and are certainly not more skilled than the American workers that they are replacing. These workers are being hired for two reasons---1) they are cheap; and 2) they are more easily disposed of than an American worker. 

This site is an extremely valuable source of information about the unfair labor practices of corporate employers. This web site provides valuable LCA data that even the U.S. Department of Labor has been unable and unwilling to provide to the public. This web site provides information on how the US Congress, US Senate, and the White House have betrayed the US workers by whom this Nation is built and sustained! This web site provides invaluable resources to any member of the media who wants a full and complete picture of this national disgraceful conduct of importing cheap labor based upon lies to the America public and the media that there is a "shortage of skilled workers". IF I were a member of the media I would be outraged that I had been so carefully spoon fed such gross , planned, mis-information. If I were a journalist I would want to know the truth and want to report it. If I were a foreign worker looking for employment, I would want to know what kind of working conditions I would be entering into when I arrived in America to take the job away from one of my peer professionals. 

God Bless American Workers! 

Thank you to the American worker who has developed this web site which has a wealth of information that the entire world can access. Thank you for your American talent, dedication, creativity, and desire that the truth should be made known! That is what professionalism, dedication, and loyalty is about. We, your peer professionals, are proud of you. 

An American worker, taxpayer, voter, and supporter of this outstanding web site!

I am glad that some people see the value in this site, even if detractors like Ram Potukuchi don't.
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OUR GOVERNMENT 

I've been reading some of your feedback, I've this to say it's not the people that 'is taking our jobs, IT'S THE GOVERNMENT I blame for letting it happen, our government of the U.S.A. that we voted for .who do they care about other countries, and what they can benefit from there resources they have to offer. we're letting than in this country at a over whelming amount per day, what is our government going to do when the American workers won't a job to support their family, is going on Medicaid the answer, I would think ,but who are we any way just an American trying to support our family and make a living.

The United States will have major problems supporting the Baby Boomers when they retire. This problem will be exacerbated by the huge numbers of professionals that are losing jobs and being forced to use their retirement savings to survive. The replaced workers will be forced to take lower paying jobs and that will compound the problems. Congress doesn't seem to care about the social upheaval that will occur in the future.
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Your site is stating the obvious. Why should'nt American businesses find cheaper competant workers abroad? Obviously it would not be good for American workers but it is usually good for the businesses and the stockholders, to whom the executives are ultimately responsible. For American businesses to "protect" their workers from foreign competition you have to assume a certain amount of nationalism on their part. In a capitalist country, where you have to even pay for a basic neccessity like health care, why should you make this assumption? America is not Germany or Japan where a site like yours would be greeted with more enthusiasm. In this country the only thing that really counts is money, the rest is usually talk. You have the "right" philosophy (companies should care about their native workers) for the "wrong" (primarily capitalist money-oriented) country. In that sense, you remind me of King Lear who "rails against the wind." He didn't end up too happy.
Ram Potukuchi

You are so correct that the only thing that counts in the USA is money. Nobody but the naive expect companies to have a sense of social responsibility so we rely on our government to set rules that ensure that it's in the best interest of these companies to have policies that are fair. US companies are never reluctant to ask our government for international copyright protection, tax subsidies, and favorable regulations but they feel that they deserve total freedom in their hiring practices. Furthermore they bought off our government with generous campaign contributions to get H-1B, H-2A, H-2B, and TN visas in order to import cheap young blood. We, the people, have a constitutional right to demand that our government force companies to be socially responsible. Companies shouldn't be allowed to have it both ways if they expect to operate within our borders.
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H-1B Visa

All I keep reading about is how high tech. jobs are being taken over, what about blue collar, and those that don't have a title like ,labors, that work for cheap in the mills and factory like textiles if you could print something about that I can get more people to sign the petition to amend the H-1B program

The large majority of workers targeted by H-1B are white collar workers so that is probably why they get more press coverage. Use the Advanced Search at the LCA Database and use the drop down menu on "Job Categories". You will see large numbers of blue collar jobs that are filled with H-1Bs. Many blue collar workers are also imported using H-1A, H-2B, and TN (NAFTA). You can use the database to search for H-2Bs. 

Our government has categorized work visas on job type and economic class. It's a very clever strategy to divide workers in order to dissipate opposition to work based visas. If American workers don't band together and protect their jobs, there won't be a "blue collar" or "white collar" working class. There will only be the very rich and the very poor. I personally have sent many faxes to congress to fight the expansion of blue collar visas that President Bush wants to impose because I understand that companies are only interested in one thing, cheap compliant labor. If you care about the future of America, you should make the effort to mail in the Petition to Abolish H-1B. You can send free pre-written or custom faxes to congress by using the great NumbersUSA website.
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Regarding Social Security Taxes

In response to your reply to a H1B worker's posting on 24th April, 2001, you had mentioned that many H1B workers "don't have" to pay social security. I enquired the SSA regarding this and got back the following response. Please do publish this on your web-site for the benefit of everyone.

The text clearly indicates that all H1B workers MUST pay social security taxes even though several of them return back to their home countries without getting back a penny out of it. I've never heard of anyone getting their social security benefits when they leave the US. I can understand the vision of your web-site and agree with several of your views but please don't portray H1B workers as villains and crooks who by-pass the law.

Ramkumar Ganesan

As with all facets of H-1B, the answer is never very simple. Please see the FICA FAQ for more on this subject.
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Firstly, let me state my background: I’m an H1B worker. I’m originally from  India. I have an undergraduate degree in electrical engineering and masters  in computer science from a respected American university. I work for a large software development company that employs a fair no. of  H1B workers (though it doesn’t feature in your top 100) These people are from all over the world; mainly Indians, Europeans and  Chinese. They are all very smart people; many of them have graduated from  the most elite schools in their respective countries. The cream of the crop,  if you will. All recruitment is done strictly with the long-term in mind –  so green card petitions are filed for every one of these foreign workers  (you’ll excuse me if I don’t use Aliens, I think it’s a very ugly word :) if  they choose to stay on in the country.

My company also employs contract workers through contract firms. Many of  these workers have H1Bs. However, this is strictly on a need basis and all  contracts expire without the option in 1 year after which there has to be a  90 day gap for the individual to be re-contracted. Yes, I am indentured – at least till my green card petition comes through –  because I can’t leave my company without another H1 from another company.  However, I’m paid the same amount a citizen with my qualifications would be  paid. I don’t think it would be exaggerating to say that a lot of very important products that my company has produced has been through the strength of its workers, both American and foreign.

Why am I telling you all this? Perhaps to indicate that your picture is  one-sided. A large number of the H1Bs in the country are sought after only because they are highly skilled.

Now as to what I think of the situation: 
1) I genuinely did believe there was a labor shortage; the media seems to state that all the time. Perhaps that’s not true, but I still believe that there *are some* high-tech segments without enough qualified workers. My job requires knowledge of advanced Computer Science concepts, and there aren’t that many people who have advanced degrees in the field. From our recruitment endeavors, it has never appeared to me that there are an overly large number of qualified candidates, at least in engineering. In non-engineering disciplines – management positions for instance, the ratio of non-Americans is much lower. Wouldn’t that be rather indicative of the preferences of the American people as far as preferred work goes?

2) Experiences at university somewhat corroborated that: I taught at grad. School. Graduate school did seem to have a shortage of American students. Asians and Eastern block students dominate Math and Computer Science departments. I think the university was very eager to have American students – the year I joined, the American students that joined were from very varied backgrounds (Music, for instance.) So I assume the universities at least are not lying about a shortage of students. I realize that this is very understandable since the American market is such that it encourages learning on the job and doesn’t reward higher education. If I was an American, I’d probably start working after a bachelor’s too.I don’t want to offend, but I’d like to say I think there might be some truth in saying that more Asians/Russians have studied Math. I’m not sure that’s a weakness; it’s probably because your society is more developed. You can study art. My country, on the other hand, is not as understanding of my desire to study literature – I have to take up something academic like Engineering or starve. This is not a race thing, obviously. The Russians aren’t better at chess because they have better genes; it’s just that their system has drilled it into them. My brightest students were all American (Jewish American, if you want to get indecently ethnic about it as the media seems to want to keep doing nowadays) – but there were very few of them. Most people had just decided that Computer Science wasn’t for them – and they had the options and the opportunity to study a field of their choice. But again, that’s just university, not the job market.

3) I’m aware that there are unscrupulous people who fake degrees and resumes. No one in their right mind could condone this. This is an enforcement issue and I think if your government was serious about it, it could reduce these occurrences. I don’t have a very high opinion of the INS, I’m afraid; they’re possibly too understaffed to care.

4) I think a lot of what your site talks about has to do with the so-called “body-shops” whose primary function is importing and placing people. Many of these people *are* qualified. Many of them are not. Most of them are underpaid and sometimes subject to harsh conditions, but cannot leave for better opportunities. The body-shopper makes his profits and is happy. The corporation gets cheap labor and is happy. In a way, the worker gets an opportunity at a life he couldn’t get in a less competitive environment and is happy. This environment, it seems to me, seems primarily of the making of corporate America. If I was an American, I’d probably be unhappy that they’re placing profits over patriotism (but as I’m not, it’s clearly not my place to challenge them)

5) I don’t agree with comments that you’re attacking H1B workers, I think your site has attempted to portray H1B workers as co-victims. However, I think that’s true only to an extent. As I said before, I don’t believe what you said applies to all H1B workers, just a portion of them. At the risk of repeating myself, many H1B workers are here only because they’re highly skilled.

Reading comments on your site was depressing. I guess the last thing we need is hatred which will eventually just degenerate to racial hatred.

The older worker issue was especially depressing, just points to a very callous government or environment or whatever. I realize this will affect me too one day (if I continue to live here, with your blessings, I hope) – I know I won’t want to be working the way I do when I’m 50! That part of it isn’t really about aliens, is it – just about corporate America and its cold profit-seeking ways.

BTW, another reason why the government may welcome foreign labor is that H1B 
workers contribute to Social security (essentially money that they will never see) but take none out.

In conclusion, I don’t believe I robbed an American of his job – but then I could be wrong. I hope not :|

First off, you didn't rob an American of his job. The H-1B program was designed by big business to steal American jobs and GIVE them to non-US workers. You took a job that our government gave away. I don't blame you for what our own government is doing. Our corporations have decided that H-1Bs can increase profitability by lowering labor costs. They paid off our congress to allow the labor pool to be expanded.  

You are probably right that the government sees H-1Bs as a source or revenue for our bankrupt social security system. It's ironic that this same government provided loopholes so that many H-1Bs don't have to pay social security. If you are paying it, you may want to go to my Links page to contact a good immigration attorney like Shusterman or Fragomen.

Your understanding of the English language needs improvement. You say that the term "alien" is ugly. You then refer to yourself as a foreign worker. The appropriate word in the Amercian legal system is to refer to non-citizens as "aliens". Get used to using the American terminology for folks that are mere guest workers in the USA. 

 It does sound like you have a good job as an H-1B but that can change. I recommend you read "Today’s Immigrant - Tomorrow’s Victim" by Richard Tax of the American Engineering Association.

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Chinese H-1B

The Communist Chinese recently knocked one of our surveillance aircraft from the sky using a Soviet-inspired "Taran" maneuver, and have illegally seized the aircraft and its crew. I was wondering, approximately how many Communist Chinese scabs are working in this country under H-1B visas?

Irvin

There will approximately 67,000 Chinese working in the United States on H-1B visas in 2001. While it's not possible to tell how many of them are communist, H-1B is an obvious portal for industrial and governmental spies. I am constantly amazed that the media never discusses the breach of security these H-1Bs are to national security. Check the H-1B Visa Database and you will discover that Los Alamos Labs hires huge numbers of H-1Bs. To make matters worse, H-1Bs that are working on government and military projects are given an extended H-1B visa of 5 years with one renewal. Other H-1Bs are given a 3 year visa. It seems that our government has made a decision to allow H-1Bs to steal our secrets.
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So...what is the problem?

I have read your site, gone through the postings, and have learned absolutely nothing from your site to make me believe that H-1B visas are bad.

I do have a few questions for you, First of all, in as short of an explanation as possible, what is wrong with H-1B visas? Secondly, in order for any of your information to be valid, it must include the date of the information. I have been researching H-1B for the last 6 months in great detail.....and have learned enough to know that I lot of the "quotes" you are quoting are outdated, and don't apply to the situation as it is now. How do you answer being ignorant of the date of the facts? Lastly, I got the impression that H-1B visas are bad for reducing the wages of Americans. Are you aware that the company must report the wages to officials how much they pay their H-1B worker? Lets take it for granted that they do.If companies are underpaying them.....would that not be the comapny doing something illegal.....and would that not mean the fault is not with the H-1B workers?

Another really quick question, how many Americans are underpaid, and how many Mexican farm laborers are underpaid?
Mike

I have answered most of your questions ad infinitum on this site so I guess you really haven't learned anything.  

This site is a resource for the H-1B program which was started in 1990. The intent of the program is to reduce labor costs, and that hasn't changed. The 1990 H-1B Visa legislation, like the 1976 "Eilberg Amendment", is an example of "special interest politics" at its worst. The common objective for both the H-1B Visa program and the Eilberg Amendment was to reduce employer wage and benefit expenditures for highly skilled labor.

 I continuously update this site with new information as well as archiving older information. I feel that all that is on this site is relevant and may be of interest to people that want to do some historical research.  

I feel that Farmworker Justice Fund could answer your questions about farm workers better than I can.

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I received this excellent reply to Mike's letter on 4/15/2001.

A Reply to "So What's the Problem--Mike:"

"So What's the Problem"-- Mike: makes several statements that shows how little he reads and/or has a comprehension problem. He says he read the ZaZona web site and learned nothing. Well that certainly is an embarrassing declaration for Mike to make about his lack of ability to comprehend new information. This site has the most cutting edge information about the H-1B Visa issues of any site currently available. Poor Mike clearly didn't comprehend that the LCA data base that is provided at this web site is not available at any other web site. Not even the U.S. Department of Labor which issues the LCA has such a data base. Poor Mike didn't learn anything about companies who routinely are hiring H-1Bs while at the same time firing US workers and then complain they can't keep US workers? 

Didn't Mike read the problems that in spite of federal laws and regulations mandating that the prevailing wages are to be paid to the imported worker that in fact such is not the norm and that such abuses are rarely invested because DoL has not made it a priority to do so? Part of the problem is in the fact that DoL has never been provided funding to investigate the abuses of the H-1B program and so it simply ignores the crisis of employers abusing the workers both US workers (citizens and permanent aliens) and the imported H-1B workers.

Mike says that in a mere six months he has done an extensive study of the H-1B visa program. Really? Unless Mike was able to make his study efforts a full time effort during the past six months it would have been impossible for him to have done anything resembling a complete and in-depth study of the H-1B visa program. I have been involved with the H-1B visa issues for over a decade and much of what I have collected is not readily available to the public. In his investigation of the H-1B visa program Mike would have had to have submitted Freedom of Information Act request for information to the US Department of Justice and or the Immigration and Naturalization Services as well as the US Department of Labor. Getting a response to questions about the H-1B program can take months to obtain --- in spite of the 20 day response time that is mandated by law. Mike didn't mention doing any of these most fundamental inquiries to these federal departments. 

Has Mike attended any of the immigration lawyers training conferences to review their techniques in completing applications of the H-1B visa programs? How much did he learn about how the lawyers discuss how to coach the H-1B to puff up their resumes? Mike doesn't sound like an attorney so I would suspect he hasn't. That is certainly an eye-opening experience that should be on the priority listing understand the application process in the real world before declaring one has an in-depth knowledge of the H-1B program.

Mike suggests that the quotes found on the ZaZona web site are out-dated and don't apply to the current H-1B issues. Unfortunately, Mike doesn't understand the lobbying process because these lobbyists build upon their prior statements and do not discard declarations made 1, 2, 3, 5, or 10 years ago. In legal documents in fact the older the documents the more potential it has of being viewed as being credible----the US Constitution is over 200 years old and age gives it more credibility not less. This is what these lobbyists count on to establish a historic "record" that Congress needs to heed their words. 

Mike made broad claims that the quotes used at ZaZona.com are "dated" but he didn't provide a single example of such "dated statements". He didn't provide a single position shift made by any of the politicians that were quoted. He didn't provide any reference to the fact that the H-1B program was designed to address a "shortage" of workers but that in past six months he claims to have obtained a deep understanding of the H-1B program while tens of thousands of US workers have been fired from their jobs because of a slowing global economy. In fact, this job meltdown would indicate that there is less of a need for H-1Bs and not more! Where is Mike's supportive information? Mike says he has studied the H-1B program for six months and finds nothing wrong with it yet he doesn't provide even a single statement for his position. Why not?

Mike says he has done a complete study of the H-1B visa program and sees nothing wrong with it.

So Mike doesn't see anything wrong with the fellow in California bringing in sex-slave female children from India under the H-1B visa program? (one these poor little girls died while under his "care"--thankgoodness Mike didn't investigate that case and law enforcement did as law enforcement found the death of a child unacceptable) He doesn't see anything wrong with programmers being brought in from India to be mere busboys at his restaurant instead of doing the job he swore to the federal government he was going to have them perform? Mike doesn't see anything wrong with 74% of the employment work histories being fabricated as was determined by the INS-Nebraska office? Mike doesn't see anything wrong with over 30% of the H-1Bs educational claims to be fabricated as determined by the INS-Nebraska office? Mike doesn't see anything wrong with cramming 18 adult male computer programmers into a one-bedroom apartment in the mid-west so that these professionals have to sleep in shifts on the floor??? Mike doesn't have a problem with companies in Texas paying H-1Bs professional engineers the so-called prevailing wages of $8/hour?? 

What would offend Mike's sensibilities?

I have a different set of values than Mike. I think lies to the federal government are not acceptable. I don't believe that under paying technical professionals from any country is acceptable. I don't believe that lies about one's work history nor one's educational experiences are acceptable. I don't think it is honest to state one is paying the prevailing wages when in fact one is not and hires attorneys to see about ways to skirt this federal mandate. I don't find it acceptable to have US technical workers doing their job and then have imported workers brought in and the US workers ordered to teach the imported workers their jobs. The US workers after training of imported workers are then promptly fired from their jobs. 

Perhaps Mike should have provided us with a view of what his personal values are so that we could understand at what point of abuse of the H-1B visa program he would find "wrong" or "offensive". 

A concerned member of the public who does find the H-1B legally flawed.

Do you have any date to show how many company hired H-1B workers? I know you have a LCA database. But it will be great if you can shows some statistics data how many company hired or are hiring H-1B workers! 

I think it would be interesting statistic to see how many different companies are in the database. I am working on a new generation database and will include that statistic. Be aware that this statistic will not be very accurate. That is because bodyshops such as TATA, Mastech, and Comsys bring in H-1Bs by the thousands. They contract the H-1Bs out to different companies. The DOL doesn't track where the H-1Bs go after they are sent to these bodyshops. In other words, nobody in our government know the answer to your question.
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A suffered old programmer

I Just came across your site, I am a programmer and worked in close association with many H1-B programmers over the last couple of years and in the process got to know a bit about them.These are some things I came to know through them.

I asked them how come H-1Bs have work experience in specific software skills. How is it that the H-1Bs possess skills the Americans don't?

A lot of them said actually only a miniscule percent of them have real experience in specific software skills and a lot of them just learn the skills in training centres and FAKE THE RESUME. I am very horrified at this, and this guy also went on to say that actually their employers after recruting them COOK up the RESUME according to the requirements they recieve per se three or four years of experience and market them.As most of the H1-B's work as temp consultants, clients are not particular in checking their references.

I think here lies explanation to the most intriguing question as to how people with H1-B always have experience in the latest and hot software skills.

I hope you will bring this to light through your web site.

Your letter is the perfect answer for the arrogant H-1B in the following letter.
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I hit your web-site just y'day following some link and went through most of it. Looking at some of the sections, I thought I must respond to this. As you would have guessed, I am a H1-B visa holder. But as opposed to what the other people have said in favor of H1-Bs in your feedback section, I have an entirely different view point to share. Being a H1-B visa holder, I'm as much excited as you are to be thrown out of this country but unfortunately for you, it is never going to happen. Let's look into the reality behind why it won't happen.

America being the most advanced and sophisticated country in the world (by the way, this rich and strong country has not been built ONLY by american's as you should know, it has been built by the best brains all over the world. Otherwise, it wouldn't be what it is today.), american's are not very open to criticism about their country and the way they do things, which is natural for anyone. People don't want to believe that there is something wrong with the system of which they are a part of. It is a fact that the number of hi-tech jobs over the next few years is more than the available pool of technical "americans" available. As companies business and technical needs are growing, so will the need for technical people. Firstly, accept the fact that there are not enough "americans" available as of today. And the sadder thing is that it is only going to get worse in the future. The primary reason being that the education system of the US doesn't prepare students to be good programmers. There is not enough emphasis on math and analytics which is fundamental to programming. If your education system was perfect enough to churn out the needed number of programmers, I have no reason to be here. Go tell your sons and daughters about how this country is being taken over by immigrants and what they should do to avoid this when they grow up to be like you. Teach them the importance of having a strong schooling background so that people like me can be thrown out of this country. Teach them the importance of science and math and tell them it is more important than their week-end dates and proms. Make them realize what their education system is missing and help them sharpen their skills in those areas. Help them to be great technical people. This is not to imply that your education system is not good, but learn to accept criticisms in the right spirit. Looking far into the future, make an effort to change the education system that you have in place today. Shut down this stupid web-site, sit back in your couch, think about this seriously, start a revolution to improve your schooling system and prepare your kids to be better programmers than me. Then, people like me will vanish.
There is no need for a web-site like this. The problem is elsewhere and you are looking elsewhere.

Atleast change now for the better,
H1-B visa holder wanting to leave

Ramkumar Ganesan

You state that Americans are not very open to criticism and yet you say I should close down this web site. Did it ever occur to you that I'm criticizing our government for instituting H-1B and the American public for their apathy?
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Is H1B Threat real?

Note: Please be reminded that any of the below comments are not meant to offend any person or organization It was happened to visit your website from a link on ZDNet site. Your concerns are noteworthy. But we must realize that we are living in the world of globalization where everyone has a place to play. Not just one man or one country. I am an H1B holder. It might sound painful to you because you think I might have replaced a person like you. But the question is, is your thinking reasonable? For instance in India (where I belong to), there are tens and tens of multi national corporations like Procter & Gamble, Coca Cola, Pepsi, Enron, Nike, etc to name a few. All these companies are doing multi million dollar businesses earning millions of dollars and are owned by American investors. They are completely bullying the local businesses and manufacturers with the money and power they have. The point is not who owns it or who loses because of it. The point is, should Indians expel all these corporations because simply they are grabbing away money from Indians. If what I just said is wrong, then I think what your web site is saying is also wrong. American companies are employing hundreds of H1B's because there are several reasons. Primarily it's cost effective. The perspective you are looking at the issue might be quite different from how I am looking at it. I want to stress once again that it's merely a globalization. Intel has several factories world wide. Why? Because of cheap labor. De Beers has most of it's diamonds coming from South Africa. Yet they are among the poorest? Why? In Walmart the chances are very high that if I buy a product it would be 'Made In China'. Why? If you think H1B holders are a grave threat to working community of America, I think all the above corporations who are having their bases all around the world are a grave threat to each country they have a base with. I know it would hurt your feelings. But I am just trying to explain my point of view. I respect your feelings and I wish you would coincide with my reasoning. I didn't mean to offend any company or community by mentioning their names above. Try looking at the things with different approaches. Who knows, you might feel better. Your comments are always welcome.

Thanks
An H1B Visa Holder

We agree on almost all points. You said American companies prefer H-1Bs "Primarily it's cost effective". I have always said that the reason companies will hire H-1Bs instead of Americans is that it saves them money, and that's all they care about doing.
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ASME position

I am a mechanical engineer and also a member of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers. The following is the reply that I received from my inquiry as to ASME's position on the H-1B visa issue.

ASME seems to have forgotten that ASME stands for AMERICAN Society of Mechanical Engineers. While the big corporations have lobbying organizations like ITAA, ITIC, and TechNet out buying legislation, I have the limp dicks at ASME working for me. Needless to say, I am not going to renew my membership in this spineless organization.

Irvin

I have included ASME on the Skunks.org page. If you want an organization for engineers with some backbone, check out the American Engineering Association.
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I recently read an article in Computer Times magazine, where the Corporate CEO of Rapidigm, a so called "consulting" firm masquerading as a H1-B bodyshop recently stated that the reason he had to hire H1-B's was because he couldn't find enough qualified citizens to fill the positions that his company had currently open. If that is the case, then instead of importing foreign workers, why not hire college kids straight out of college and train them (for a period of about six months to a year) in the technical skills that he seeks out and then putting them to work? I know for a fact there are lot of college kids straight out of college as well as some older programers with older skills that they could hire and retrain to do this kind of work he says he is looking for. He also says that if they did away with the H1-B program that what would happen would be for more companies to take the IT jobs "off-shore" to foreign countries. What is your response to that? Would that happen? Or is that just a "scare tactic" used by the other side to justify the continuation of the H1-B program? Also I find it kind of funny that when all these hi-tech companies start laying off, they start laying-off citizens, the foreign H1-B never feels the pinch? Why is that? If the company is in such dire straits financially should the H1-B worker feel the pinch too? Why should they (who are not even citizens of this country) be given special privleges and be immune to the financial downturns and machinations of corporate policy? That seems sooooo totally unfair that it is to the point of total disgracefullness. Thank You

Companies are shipping high tech work and call centers to foreign countries so it's not an idle threat. See the articles Ford opens IT hub in India to save millions and Tapping Foreign Shores. They are encouraged to do this because our government gives them tax breaks to move the jobs out. On a practical level, it probably doesn't make much difference to an unemployed programmer is he was replaced by an H-1B or his job was shipped to India or China.
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Questions about the data source in H-1B Hall of Shame

I was looking at your great web site. "H1-B Hall of Shame". and have two questions about some date in it. 

1, In the Library, there are some H-1B Statistics from LCAs. Did you get these data from your own database or from some official source? Is there any official sources we can get those data? 
2, In the "Demographics", you mentioned CPS as the Data source. Would you please let me know more about this "CPS"? 

Thanks a lot and looking forward to hearing from you. 
James

The statistics you see were derived from the LCA data that I posses. I haven't updated it in awhile but will eventually make that a priority. The DOL doesn't release any of these figures from LCAs to the public. In fact, the only thing they have done internally can be found on my Top 100 page. It's a very sad situation that our government has done so little study on this massive database.

I went to the DOL web page that I used for the demographics "The Department of Labor's Foreign Labor Certification Programs: The System Is Broken and Needs To Be Fixed" to see if I could get an answer to your CPS question. I was very distressed  to find that the charts have been removed from the web page! I have notified the webmaster and the DOL Office of Audit.  [H-1B Hall of Shame]

The information in your site is very useful however I think you would gain a lot of credibility by removing the java, the animated bloody heads and blinking graphics. It really is detracting from the content. It also reaks havoc on slow connections and many web browsers.

Other than that I thought the organization and the content was very interesting. I can relate to many of the stories there. I have personally witnessed abuse of h1b workers and it is unfair for them and for the rest of us.

I am not ready to have my name on the site just yet so please leave my email address out.

I guess you won't be too happy to hear that my new LCA Database project will require JavaScript to work. The good news is that it won't have any bloody heads or dripping blood, just the facts.  [H-1B Hall of Shame]

H1-B Woes of some Americans

I stumbled on your site while surfing yesterday. You see, I had completed in one hour work which would have taken my American colleagues the whole day. So I was surfing....

Anyway, this site gripes about H1-Bs Instead, maybe some Americans (like sympathizers of this web-site) should get an honest opinion of their own qualifications/abilities. They will then realize what forces corporate America to hire from overseas. In short the factors are: Overseas H1-Bs generally work harder AND smarter. Usually are more motivated and ambitious Typically represent the elite of their countries (which is usually better than the "laid-back" American) Maybe it is time some Americans realized that excellence resides outside America too- and as a consequence market forces choose the better asset (H1-B worker) for the same buck. Is it any wonder why there are fewer jobs for Americans?

Regards (though you don't really deserve any)
H1BTheBest

I hope you get paid 8 times what the an American makes for the same position since you are 8 times as productive, but you don't. You are just a typical slave being exploited by rich white CEOs. The funny thing is that you don't even realize that you are an indentured slave.
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The hi-tech layoff question

It would seem to me that in light of all of the dotcoms going into dotbombs and the other massive layoffs since the NASDAQ and tech stocks went into this very nasty little tailspin that we have been in for the last 6 months, that the "other-side" would have a much harder time justifying the need for more H1-B's because of a "so-called" skilled worker shortage. It seems to me that that arguement would continue to be more and more feeble as the hi-tech layoffs continue to mount like they have been mounting recently. Here in Austin,Texas

the Austin Chronicle and American-Statesmen(local newspapers) reported that Austin has lost over 11,000 hi-tech jobs since last October. That is an absolutely staggering amount of people being thrown out of work in one town especially for just one particular industry alone. As these hi-tech layoffs continue to mount in ever higher numbers, you would think that the "sham" arguement of their being a shortage of hi-tech workers would look "shamier" and "shamier" than ever, especially with members of Congress who are supposed to be looking after the public welfare.

What is your take on all this? Will all these layoffs muzzle and waterdown the other side's arguements of a Hi-Tech worker shortage in the US?

Brendan Boyd

PS - Dont wory George W. Bush will take care of it, because he has "family values".

It is very unlikely that a downturn in the economy will reduce the industry's usage of H-1Bs. H-1B usage soared in the early 1990s, a period of recession and defense downsizing. 

The DOL is reporting that they may be receiving less applications for H-1Bs but that could be because the new law says that any application received prior to September 1, 2000 should not count towards the 2001 cap. 

In Washington DC, a spokesperson for Cisco System Inc said: "Cisco has regarded and continues to regard H-1B workers as a strategic part of our staffing strategy. H-1B workers by definition have special skills that are in very short supply worldwide. That is still the case." Murali Krishna Devarakonda, a member of the board of directors of the H-1B advocacy group -- Immigrants' Support Network said that layoffs may not be common right now, Devarakonda said, but there is still a major concern among H-1B workers.

Elaine Chao, during her hearing for secretary of labor said, "In America today there are tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of high-tech jobs that cannot be filled, while at the same time there are millions of Americans who cannot fill them."

It is possible that the actual percentage of H-1Bs being hired is rising as U.S. companies are shedding their US workers and holding on to their H-1Bs. In bad economic times companies will seek to reduce cost by hiring more H-1Bs.

So far Bush seems to care more about H-1B families because he has hinted that he would consider another huge increase in the H-1B limit as well as making it easier for H-1Bs to move their families to the U.S.
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a radical proposal

This may be a radical proposal, but perhaps you can provide feedback on whether this would actually work. This proposal has NO effect on workers now in the U.S.. but only against the newly established quota.

1. How many visas are outstanding against the new quota established?
2. What is the fee for filing an LCA? Is it $1,000?
3. If it IS about $1,000, I propose that we organize and INDIVIDUALLY 'adopt' and file for an LCA. Some people may want to buy more than one.
4. If there are 195,000 per year, we will need to find 195,000 people to adopt 1 each. If people 'adopt' more than one, the number decreases. 
5. Perhaps this can be regarded as a tax deductible job expense. Consult your C.P.A. - who might be an H-1B if you work with a Big 5 firm.

Thank you for your efforts in creating this site. The information provided, and especially the database access, provides amazing enlightenment.

Your proposal is interesting but not practical. First of all I doubt if 195,000 people in the U.S. know what H-1B is. The ones that do are probably unemployed victims and don't have $1,000.  You also assume that 195,000 is the limit on H-1Bs but you are wrong because educational institutions have an unlimited exemption. There are also many other visas that allow workers in such as L-1, H-2A, H-2B, H-3, Green Cards etc. Even if all the visas were bought up by activists, what would stop congress from doubling the limit?
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Can't get it
Please tell me if your ancestors where indians. That would be the only sensible explanation for your bad feelings to the rest of the world. No. I'm wrong. May be you suffer from amnesia and you forgot what immigrants gave to USA. Your last name, for example... Don't ever close this website. It's a clear example of a small part (thanks God getting smaller) of USA's racist reminiscence. H1B law may be wrong, but your fight isn't aimed at all. Focus. I bet you 1M bucks you're not afroamerican.

Finally an H-1B advocate wants me to keep my website up. This is an encouraging trend!
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Congress doesn't care

Dear Congressman (woman) ********:

It has come to my attention that our country faces a serious shortage of politicians who understand what a representative democracy is. I propose that we create a program to import, on a guest worker basis, with terms not to exceed six years, politicians from other countries with a stronger tradition of political freedom. Canada, England and Sweden come to mind. I am sure other countries would be willing to lend us a few of their political Einstein. This program could be use to expand government, allowing citizens greater access to their representatives and having the further benefit of lowering bloated Congressional salaries.

PS The government and professional societies (I assume these do not represent nurses' interest have started to claim a serious shortage of nurses). Is this a prelude to Congress letting more foreign nurses into the country?

John Loughrin 

H-1B has special provisions to allow nurses into the United States. You can see many of these by using the H-1B Visa Database. I checked the database for politicians and was disappointed not to get hits for politicians. 
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Phony Job Ads

There's a suspicion that a particular type of job ad is phony, aimed at generating a little documentation to support an H1-B visa application. These ads are usually highly detailed, over specified with requirements that would never represent a real position. They are placed through state employment (or unemployment) offices. That's not news to you. But here's a suggestion: Use the Freedom of Information act to find out whether anyone is ever hired this way, and whether these ads are related to H1-B visa requests. Could that be practical? Useful?

You are correct that these phony ads are used for companies that want to cover themselves legally if employees or applicants complain that H-1Bs are being favored over American workers. There are no requirements in the law for the way job ads are written so the DOL won't investigate if they are obviously fraudulent. The DOL can, but not necessarily will, investigate if somebody complains that they were not hired or interviewed and they can show that they were qualified for the job. Of course since these ads specify so many skills nobody is qualified, therefore the companies are never sanctioned for this behavior. This is another shining example of the loopholes that the H-1B law provides for abuse and discrimination. To have a look at some of these ads go to H-1B Job Advertisements.

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Congress doesn't care

I have written Congress and the President, but have gotten no replies whatsoever. Despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, the government continues to cite "desperate" labor shortages and increase H-B quotas. The media doesn't care, back home in Kentucky, they talk about all the good Mexican farm workers are doing for the poor farmers without once mentioning the negative impact "guest" worker programs have on other equally deserving people. As for me, I got my Ph.D. in Plant Physiology in 1991 with a 3.8 GPA (while working full time), have a good publication record, and have never held anything other job than "post-doc". The last university I applied to, they told me in an unsolicited letter that they hired someone from the Virgin Islands, the last company I applied to an Indian told me I didn't have the necessary skills. Congress doesn't care about peons like me, my role in society is to be quiet and pay taxes until I die (hopefully before I collect any Social Security). I wonder if any large scale protest in Washington could be organized.

--- John Loughrin
--- loughrin@earthlink.net

The responses that Congress does give is less than encouraging. To look at a few of their letters go to the H-1B Research Library.

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Immigration Visas

Those who seek to justify H-1B Visas just never get it. The issue here is really quite simple. American Citizens are burdened down by 3 things nobody else in the world has to carry. We must [1] Carry the Defense of the world. [2] Carry our massive National Debt much of it related historically to item one. [3] We must carry the largest Social Security burden of any people on earth. It is simply wrong to make us carry this load while having persons come here who do not carry this load. In particular it is absolutely evil that anyone would be 16% cheaper in their wages as are H-1B visa workers. This is the Social Security Tax burden differential. If there is a "shortage of Labor" companies should be grateful to pay more not less. Congress gave away over $18 Billion in Social Security Taxes with the H-1B Bill voted in October 2000. 

There are major world labor market differences here vs there. No employer in Asia would consider a layoff of workers or mere at will hiring. This is against the law there. You can get killed for doing it. What is more even in Europe an employer is liable for 3 months wages for an employee layoff! Because my wife is an immigrant from the Philippines this is entirely clear to me. These Visas cause Americans to have their investment in education undermined. In a nation where the average career job lasts just 16 months and the average career must have college retraining every 5 years it is impossible to have your personal investment in education recovered. When you demand adequate wages Congress floods the market with persons who got state sponsored education paid for by the US Treasury. (Read World Bank) You have to hate your own kids and desire to destroy yourself to want this to continue.

Another feature is found in the United States Census. From 1990 to 2000 the population of the United States rose by 35 million. The USA saw 2 million lost in domestic born population in that time. We had 37 million immigrants. Our government mismanagement of this issue was profound. The 2000 Census department estimates were about 10 million low. This factors into the US energy crisis. With 37 million more people, our infrastructure in Power Plants, Dams etc is taxed to the limit. This represents an increase in demand of almost 25% in two decades. The USA cannot handle another 37 million added in the next decade. We must say STOP to this policy that accelerates immigration.

Those who demanded this based on "Labor Shortage" are now laying off. These bandits should be arrested for "Blue Sky" law violations because they took investor cash never intending to pay it back while telling us that the way to prosperity was their way. Imagine a company taking in 2 trillion dollars of investment, never paying one cent in dividends. It happened while the owners were asking Congress for more H-1B Visas. Stealing 2 trillion in investors money was not enough, they had to have cheaper labor too! One can never make money around their kind of thinking. This kind of behavior cannot be justified no matter how slick the talk. Shakespeare asked, "Would a rose by any other name, smell the same?" I ask, "Will lies by any other name still be lies?"

Sincerely Paul Noel Harvest Alabama USA
paulnoel@knology.net

There is a lot of incorrect info on your site which makes it tough to understand your argument. Congress changed the H1B law last year to provide job portability, so a lot of the 'indentured servant' and 'slave labor' arguments no longer hold water. 

There is no reason for an H1B worker to accept a substandard wage the moment they arrive in the US. They can simply move elsewhere. If they want a green card, they delay filing until they get a job they will be happy with for 3-4 years. As long as the green card petition is filed within 5 years, the H1B worker is guaranteed to get a green card now. This changes the dynamics of H1B quite radically.

You don't mention anything about L1 workers - there is no cap on these workers, so I thought it was a little strange! Why don't you raise this as a critical issue? 
Todd

I originally intended to restrict this website to the discussion of H-1B. I have recently decided that all work based visas should be discussed. As time permits, I will broaden the subject material on this site to include L1 and whatever other visa congress invents to bring in foreign workers. I am even considering changing the name of the site so that the focus can broaden.

I sometimes think too much attention is focused on the indentured nature of the H-1B visa. Ridding H-1B of it's indentured aspects would make H-1Bs slightly less desirable for US companies who lust for cheap labor. If this were to happen, and it hasn't, H-1B and other work visas would still used by companies to flood the American labor market with cheap labor.

There is a broad misconception that congress now allows H-1B workers to have job mobility. Under the new law, the H-1Bs can only escape the de facto indentured servitude at the very last stage of the green card process. They will still undergo a period of indentured servitude of about 3 to 4 years.

As for wages, there are plenty of reasons for an H-1B to accept substandard wages. They will gladly work for lower wages because their main purpose in coming here is to get permanent residency with a green card. For a programmer earning $300 a month in India, substandard salaries in the U.S. are very enticing.

You are correct that the dynamics of H-1B have been changed. H-1B is beginning to look much more like a permanent visa. The new law, for example, allows for the renewal of an employee's H-1B visa in one-year increments beyond six years if his green card application for permanent residency has been pending for more than a year.  It also allows annual, per-country allocations of green cards that go unused to be allocated to green card applicants from India and China. The two nations habitually use up their allocation of green cards while other nations' allocations go unused. 
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H1-B fraud

This is to inform you that due to an increase in H1B visas, there has been an increase in the racket of fake Degrees and experience certificates holders from India/Mexico/China/Bangladesh/Pakistan. H-1B applicants are falsifying academic and work credentials, and in many cases American employers are acting as nothing more than agencies for temporary employees. They are exploiting the government, American citizens and Permanent resident (LPR). Also for personal gains, the Tech. companies are overstating the scope of worker shortages to maintain a steady supply of foreign-born employees willing to work longer hours for much lower wages. They are also very aware that many of them have fake qualifications. Most of these Companies are not willing to hire native Americans as they are much more expensive than foreign workers.

We are observing some Companies that are hiring foreign workers having no qualification or under qualified for Computer related jobs. Recruiters are bringing these people to USA from India and other Countries on Visitor visas and then converting their visa to an H1-B. Meanwhile some of these individuals are even trained on the Company premises and sent to work in Computer related Industries. Some of these Companies have their guest houses, where the candidates live together in crowded and cramped conditions until they find jobs (working at a deli, Dunkin Donuts, Subway’s and other places to support themselves) and afford their own apartments .

We tried to contact the New York/New Jersey offices of the INS fraud department and we were told that they are not really keen on this matter, its too complicated. They were more interested in borders crossers. Now imagine where legally the number of people coming in this country is way beyond illegal people and even if 20% of them carry fake ids, degrees and experience then it becomes equivalent to the illegal border crossers. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 20 YEARS? OUR CHILDREN?

Can nothing be done to these Companies?
Rupam Kumar

The law will have to changed before these abuses can be stopped. These laws are written by congressmen that are bought and paid for by corporate lawyers and lobbyists. We won't get any help from president Bush because he seems to support open borders and higher H-1B quotas. 

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Response to "Don't Make H-1Bs Villains"

I take issue with this individual who wishes to vilify American workers who have proof that in their own country they are unemployed because of the H-1B  Visa program.   The H-1B who posted that he is a human being who has feelings seems to forget that unemployed US technical workers are human beings as well who have feelings.    We have paid our taxes to support our educational programs,  road ways,  water purification systems,  etc etc. There are reports that H-1Bs have  knowingly  taken  jobs that their peer professionals held.

This person stated that ". . . you can't imagine what an Indian with family values have to go through to do that [to live in the USA for two years and not see their family members]".  Yes,  we can imagine what is like not to see family members for years on end because we are too poor because of unemployment to visit our  family members.  One American peer professional that I know of hasn't seen his elderly parents in over five years because he can't afford to travel across country to visit them. 

Why are you (the H-1B Visa holder)  allowing your own countrymen to exploit you through this H-1B program?  Why don't you protest to the Indian government that these foreign jobs are so bad that the conditions are unacceptable?    The US MIGHT just start to demand that employers treat all professionals as human beings and not mere objects to be exploited. 

How dare you call or hint of Nazism among American peer professionals who are unemployed because of the H-1B Visa program designed to steal their jobs!   Before you start throwing such ugly labels around perhaps one should look at one's own countrymen's treatment of their folks.    Why are your countrymen  willing to place you in such terrible employment conditions?  Why do they have you forge documents?   Why do they take such unfair cuts of your salary ?   These are slave labor camp conditions which your own countrymen have supported!    Why do allow the professional societies to allow their professionals to be so exploited by employers?   Find a voice and demand that all technical professionals be treated with professionalism!  [It is my understanding that in part that is what this web site is about.  To expose this ugly abuse of ALL high skilled technical workers and to get decent professional treatment for all workers!]

About the health care problems in rural America.  

I LIVE in a rural state and I have health care provider friends and relatives.  I therefore have background to address this issue of Montana's so-called lack of health care providers.   The problem with my  state -- as in most rural states --  is its unwillingness to pay physicians NOT high salaries but merely  living wages in rural America.  I know dozens of health care providers who would far prefer a country life to the smog,  crime,  and high cost of living of metropolitan communities.  But you providers in rural communities don't make such working arrangements possible.  American physicians are often burdened with $300,000 medical school tuition loans  to repay --- foreign workers don't have this stone around their neck.  No one can repay these loans,  provide  living funds for themselves and their family,  and put money aside for retirement on $50,000/year incomes or less that is often offered to rural working physicians.     The physicians I know who are working in large cities are counting the days until they can retire to the country to avoid the traffic,  the crime,  and other "amenities" that these blighted urban communities provide.    If  rural providers would simply look at what they are offering these highly skilled,  articulate,  talented US professionals you would see most of the salaries offered to these professionals  is nothing but an effort to rob from them their professional skills.   Americans  who live in rural America  deserve the best medical treatment available.  For this you have to pay a living wage to American health care professionals.

One highly trained mid-wife nurse I know was offered a job in rural America.  She was thrilled to come.  She was told that her $70,000 student loans would be repaid over time as she worked at this remote hospital in which the largest town is over a three hour drive from this location.  Her husband gave up his law job so that his wife could work in rural America.  HIS skills were marketable and he landed a job in a community a few miles away.  The day before this family was going to drive 1,000 miles across country for this job,  they were completely packed,  he was no longer employed --- the rural health care provider called this mid-wife and told her that they couldn't hire her after all.  She could come work for them as a contracted employee meaning she would have NO benefits at all --- no health insurance,  no life insurance,  no retirement,  and worst of all no repayment of her student loans.  She has worked as a contract health care provider for almost two years now.  [When you consider that many min. wage earns get benefits her college education doesn't really seem of much value to the rural health care system when they can't even provide health insurance for health care providers!]   Husband has a job that DOES provide decent wages,  health insurance,  life insurance,  family leave,  and  an outstanding retirement plan.  Is it any wonder that US health care providers are less than excited to work for such unreliable health care systems as this?

Your narrow focus [health care system folks in rural America] on the bottom line is that you endanger American lives  of the people who live in rural America and are only given H-1B/J physicians instead of a fairly compensated US American health care provider.  You have a  moral duty to demand that your state legislature provide adequate funds to hire highly skilled,  talented,  dedicated,  American professionals who would be thrilled to live in rural America.   Shame on you for not demanding that American professionals be paid for their talent,  education,  skills, and devotion to their profession so that rural  America receives the BEST medical treatment and not the treatment that your stingy state is only willing to grudgingly pay.

Don't label American workers with negative labels (Nazis or "narrow minded/focused") when we have simply discovered how it is that we don't have jobs or jobs that don't compensate us fairly for our education,  talent,  and professionalism.  Instead,  why not join in the fight for fair working conditions and wages for American professionals.  

And if you don't know what to do or where to begin --- contact the webmaster or any of the pro-worker groups listed at this web site.

A rural American

Don't blame H1b(s) blame the System

Before U.S. I've been to so many other countries and when I came to U.S. it was like, fine I like this place and that majorly was because I felt that nobody raises a finger on you, nobody raises a brow, and you can live in peace ,it was like wow! now this is how the biggest democracy in world should be like. You are pathetic, The worst part of your site is you never ever on the homepage say that no hard feelings H1b(s). You simply talk about them as trash. Every h1b is a human too lets remember that. Your site gives a feel like fine throw them all in pacific and let us see if they can swim back or better why don't you set up a nazi camp for them. Your problem is with government so highlight that GOVERNMENT part. Do have feelings for H1B(s). To tell you the truth nobody wants to leave the land where they were born. Most of people who come from Asia don't have many relatives here and see their families in like 2 years or sometimes more. You really can't imagine what an Indian with family values have to go through to do that. Don't make them villains.

Ragini Pandey

I have been very consistent that H-1Bs are not villains, they are welcomed here by our corrupt government and greedy corporations. Please read more of the letters on this page and you will see that I don't hold a grudge against H-1B visa holders, but I do hate the H-1B visa law. With that in mind, don't expect US workers to hold love fests for you guys because you are taking our jobs and destroying our livelihoods, and don't expect me to say on the homepage that H-1Bs are saints in disguise.

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Living in a place like Montana, you gain a much different perspective on these issues. we have so many frontier counties - more rural than most can imagine - less than 6 people per square mile - and American health care providers have NO INTEREST whatsoever in living in these communities and serving the health care needs of these populations. I have lived in many states in this country, and most people have little comprehension of exactly how isolated and underserved these communities are. most U.S. health professionals nowadays are trained in urban areas in urban-focused curriculum and complete their residencies with no desire to live in these areas. there are communities that don't have the money or amenities to lure ANY U.S.-trained practitioners except temporary NHSC workers and foreign medical graduates using H-1B/J-1 visa waivers. it is regrettable that your perspective on this matter is so narrow; these H-1Bs and J-1s are truly the only alternative for rural areas that are completely shunned by American practitioners, and that's a fact. have you ever been to Jordan, Montana? Culbertson, Montana?

Kerry J.C. Muntz, M.P.A.
Research Associate
MT Office of Rural Health/
MT Area Health Education Center

I have been in Montana and I understand how isolated certain areas are. You advocate H-1B medical workers because they are cheaper, and I have always said that one of the main reasons employers like H-1Bs is because they are a lower wage labor source. HMOs in big cities like H-1B medical workers for the same reason you do. 

The one alternative you don't consider is to pay for real doctors. I am sure Montana residents will enjoy knowing that their health care providers are affordable H-1Bs.
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I feel sorry for the Americans losing jobs in US. One bad thing about this for countries like India is that it has increased the gap between the rich and the poor.

The rich are becoming richer in dollars and the poor are becoming poorer. I think that soon there are going to be many poor Americans too.

wylde zakk

H-1B will tend to lower salaries until we are in parity with India.. 
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it is all about caliber

Be it the Pentium chip or be it the IT advisor to the president, it is the immigrants who have done it. They have helped the country to benefit and companies have reached such high valuations .

So your site is just an outlet of frustrations of people of low calibre .... no real truths. Each American (other than the natives ) is an immigrant. Let none of you forget that !!

Close your site and relearn your skills.. maybe you will find a job

Sriram Prasad  srp@rediffmail.com

Please take a deep breath of air, now hold it until I close this website down. 
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